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Kagame ati abo banyamahanga nsinshaka ko bantegeka. None se ko mbona nta mushinga numwe uba mu Rwanda atashizemo  abanyamahanaga ngo bawuyobore.  Ibi niwe wenyine ubikora muri Afurika yose. None se ya mashuri arata  ko abanyarwanda bize amaze iki ?

On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 22:25, 'Nzi Nink' via Rwanda Forum <rwandaforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:

"I don't think that there is an environment on the ground that allows criticism, or that there's pluralistic party development or the criteria that you would have in any textbook for a liberal democracy," Power told journalists in Brussels.

Samantha Power says Rwanda lacks environment 'that allows criticism'

By // 19 November 2021
USAID Administrator Samantha Power. Photo by: USAID / CC BY-NC

Rwanda under President Paul Kagame does not meet the criteria for a liberal democracy, U.S. Agency for International Development Administrator Samantha Power said Friday.

"I don't think that there is an environment on the ground that allows criticism, or that there's pluralistic party development or the criteria that you would have in any textbook for a liberal democracy," Power told journalists in Brussels.

Q&A: New book puts fresh scrutiny on 'donor darling' Rwanda

In "Do Not Disturb," journalist Michela Wrong explores the development communities' curious relationship to the central African nation.

Power's critique goes much further than that of her counterparts at the European Union institutions in the city, whom she met Friday. Top EU officials have regularly traveled to Rwanda and consulted Kagame as the bloc, worried about Chinese influence in Africa, tries to construct a new partnership with the continent.

Power's remarks followed a speech by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken in Nigeria on Friday in which he nominated democracy as one of five areas of common interest between the U.S. and Africa, ahead of next month's Summit for Democracy. That event, convened by U.S. President Joe Biden, is designed to tackle "democratic backsliding" around the world.

Blinken did not mention Rwanda during his speech but said that across Africa, there are "leaders ignoring term limits, rigging or postponing elections, exploiting social grievances to gain and maintain power, arresting opposition figures, cracking down on the media, and allowing security services to enforce pandemic restrictions with brutality."

Kagame won a third term in 2017 with almost 99% of the vote after amending the previous term limit. Human Rights Watch recently reported "Arbitrary detention, ill-treatment, and torture" in the central African country of 13 million, while "Fair trial standards were routinely flouted in many sensitive political cases, in which security-related charges are often used to prosecute prominent government critics."

Kagame's government has come under increased scrutiny of late. Opposition figure Paul Rusesabagina was sentenced to 25 years in jail on terrorism charges in September after being renditioned from the United Arab Emirates, and British journalist Michela Wrong released the critically acclaimed book "Do Not Disturb," tracing the deaths of Rwandan dissidents abroad and repression at home.

"I don't think … there's pluralistic party development [in Rwanda] or the criteria that you would have in any textbook for a liberal democracy."

— Samantha Power, administrator, USAID

Power, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and author of a Pulitzer Prize-winning book on genocide, also noted Friday the "tremendous development gains that have been secured over time in [Rwanda], in terms of education and infrastructure."

"There are now moves afoot for Rwanda to move into the vaccine manufacturing business as well," she said. "So I think it's important to view development along the spectrum, as we do as USAID, to include governance, rule of law, democracy, human rights, as well as the full corpus of social and economic development metrics, on which Rwanda has made remarkable progress."



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Re: [Rwanda Forum] Samantha Power says Rwanda lacks environment 'that allows criticism' | Devex

Nimuterekeze ko Kagame yirirwa asobanurira amahanga ko we afite demokarasi ku giti cye yihimbiye. Ko ibyanditse mu bitabo na experience ntacyo bivuze. Nyamara ibyo byose aba ari ugusobana ubutegetsi bwe. None se hari  ubugoryi buruta ubwo?

Museveni ashaka kumutegeka, abazungu bashaka kumutegeka, isi yose ishaka kumutegeka. Ibyo ntibituma asinzira, agafata indege akajya mu mahanga agiye gusobanura demokarasi ye bwite.


On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 22:25, 'Nzi Nink' via Rwanda Forum <rwandaforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:

"I don't think that there is an environment on the ground that allows criticism, or that there's pluralistic party development or the criteria that you would have in any textbook for a liberal democracy," Power told journalists in Brussels.

Samantha Power says Rwanda lacks environment 'that allows criticism'

By // 19 November 2021
USAID Administrator Samantha Power. Photo by: USAID / CC BY-NC

Rwanda under President Paul Kagame does not meet the criteria for a liberal democracy, U.S. Agency for International Development Administrator Samantha Power said Friday.

"I don't think that there is an environment on the ground that allows criticism, or that there's pluralistic party development or the criteria that you would have in any textbook for a liberal democracy," Power told journalists in Brussels.

Q&A: New book puts fresh scrutiny on 'donor darling' Rwanda

In "Do Not Disturb," journalist Michela Wrong explores the development communities' curious relationship to the central African nation.

Power's critique goes much further than that of her counterparts at the European Union institutions in the city, whom she met Friday. Top EU officials have regularly traveled to Rwanda and consulted Kagame as the bloc, worried about Chinese influence in Africa, tries to construct a new partnership with the continent.

Power's remarks followed a speech by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken in Nigeria on Friday in which he nominated democracy as one of five areas of common interest between the U.S. and Africa, ahead of next month's Summit for Democracy. That event, convened by U.S. President Joe Biden, is designed to tackle "democratic backsliding" around the world.

Blinken did not mention Rwanda during his speech but said that across Africa, there are "leaders ignoring term limits, rigging or postponing elections, exploiting social grievances to gain and maintain power, arresting opposition figures, cracking down on the media, and allowing security services to enforce pandemic restrictions with brutality."

Kagame won a third term in 2017 with almost 99% of the vote after amending the previous term limit. Human Rights Watch recently reported "Arbitrary detention, ill-treatment, and torture" in the central African country of 13 million, while "Fair trial standards were routinely flouted in many sensitive political cases, in which security-related charges are often used to prosecute prominent government critics."

Kagame's government has come under increased scrutiny of late. Opposition figure Paul Rusesabagina was sentenced to 25 years in jail on terrorism charges in September after being renditioned from the United Arab Emirates, and British journalist Michela Wrong released the critically acclaimed book "Do Not Disturb," tracing the deaths of Rwandan dissidents abroad and repression at home.

"I don't think … there's pluralistic party development [in Rwanda] or the criteria that you would have in any textbook for a liberal democracy."

— Samantha Power, administrator, USAID

Power, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and author of a Pulitzer Prize-winning book on genocide, also noted Friday the "tremendous development gains that have been secured over time in [Rwanda], in terms of education and infrastructure."

"There are now moves afoot for Rwanda to move into the vaccine manufacturing business as well," she said. "So I think it's important to view development along the spectrum, as we do as USAID, to include governance, rule of law, democracy, human rights, as well as the full corpus of social and economic development metrics, on which Rwanda has made remarkable progress."



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Re: [Rwanda Forum] Ikigoryi Tito Rutaremera ati Museveni niwe utera ibibabo biri hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda


Noneho  se  gutukana bisigaye biruta ubwicanyi?  Uwantuka ntanyice nta kibazo. Uzabisobanurire Kagame.
Tuzakomeza kugaragaza ubucucu bw'abategetsi b'u Rwanda. Ntabwo tuzabica. Bazakomeze babeho.

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 23:02, Jerome Ndiho <jeronimo2408@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wa ngurube we ko utukana?


On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:25 AM, Amakuru y'u Rwanda

Ikigoryi Tito Rutaremera ati  Museveni niwe utera ibibabo biri hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda:

 

Ibibazo hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda ni Museveni ubitera.  Rutaremera yirengangije ibi bikurikira.

 

1.          Rutaremera ati Museveni afite ishyari kubera  ko Kagame atumirwa hanze ariko  Mueseveni we  ntibamutumire. Museveni nawe agiye yitumira mu manama yose nkuko Kagame abikora, nta kabuza abategura izo nama bamwemerera kuko depenses z'izo ngendo zitarihwa n'abategura ayo manama. Museveni ntashaka kujya mu nama usanga nta rôle afitemo. Reba nk'inama ya G20 yabereye vuba aha mu Butariyana, nta wa menya role Kagame yari afite n'abo ahagarariye. Aba Perezida benshi bo muri Afrika ntibashaka kwitumira mu nama bashaka kwiyereka gusa, bashaka  kuvuga ubusa no gusubira mu by'abandi bavuga cyangwa byavuzwe kera.  Kagame abajyanweye no kwigisha ya demokarasi ye, avuga ko abazungu bivanga muri demokarasi y'Afurika. Iyo mbyino ya Kagame abenshi barayimenyereye. Ariko  ajye yibuka ko mu bihugu byose byo muri Afurika ( uretse mu Rwanda) hari amashyaka ya opposition akora demokarasi yisanzuye kandi adakurkiye iyo demokarasi Kagame yigisha. Si abazungu  bayashyizeho. Kagame rero yari akwiye guhera aho yigisha uburyo bwe bwa demokarasi muri Afrika.

2.          Rutaremera ati  Museveni ashaka gutegeka u Rwanda. Kugeza ubu ntabwo Rutaremera na Kagame bari  baduha ingero za bimwe mu bikorwa bya Museveni byo gushaka gutegeka u Rwanda. Na Museveni kandi ati sinshaka abaza kuvogera igihugu cyanjye  bakora ubutasi. Ibimemenyetso by'iyo mitwarire ya Kagame  ku butasi i Bugande byo birahari. Urugero ni  ugushimuta abanyarwanda.

3.          Muzi ko  Museveni na Kagame barwaniye muri  RDC,  Kagame ati twarabakubise twicamo abarenze 2,000.  Ntabwo umubano uzashoboka hejuru y'ayo magambo Kagame yagombye kwicuza ko yavuze.

 

Icyo umuntu yashima Rutaremara ni uko noneho yemeye ko  u Bugande bwagize uruhare mu ntambara ya Kagame n'ubwicanyi Kagame yakoreye abanyarwanda.

 

Kagame niyibuke ko yatsinzwe ahantu hose: Muri RDC no mu Burundi. N'iyi ntambara arwana n'u Bugande azayitisndwa nta kabuza.

 

 

 

 

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[Rwanda Forum] Re: Ikigoryi Tito Rutaremera ati Museveni niwe utera ibibabo biri hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda

Nzi Nink uravuga ubusa.

Uretse umuntu w'igicucu nka Tito Rutaremara na Kagame, nta wundi wamara imyaka n'imyaka avuga ngo Museveni ashaka guteka u Rwanda akaba ariyo ntandaro y'ibibazo biri hagati ya Kagame na Museveni.  Kugeza hakaba nta bimenyetso  batanga.

Umwicanyi wese ni igicucu kuko yambura umuntu ubuzima atariwe wabumuhaye.

Akambura umuntu ubuzima bw'undi kandi we atazahoraho iteka.  Abo bicanyi ni ba Kagame na Rutaremara. Niba rero kubatuka biruta ubwicanyi bwabo, ubwo muzabane nabo. Njye nzahagarara gutuka uwanyiciye abanjye.

Ese Muveveni ategeka  u Rwanda ate?.
Aha Kagame amabwiriza se ?
Amusaba gushyiraho abategetsi  Museveni yishakiye
Amuha amabwiriza se yo kuyobora igihugu, yo gucunga imali y'igihugu?

Dutegereje  evidence y'ibyo birego biregwa Museveni.



On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 04:40, Nzi Nink <nzinink@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wowe se bite? 
Birasanzwe; uruka ntafata uhitwa…!

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On Nov 18, 2021, at 6:02 PM, 'Jerome Ndiho' via Rwanda Forum <rwandaforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Wa ngurube we ko utukana?


On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:25 AM, Amakuru y'u Rwanda

Ikigoryi Tito Rutaremera ati  Museveni niwe utera ibibabo biri hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda:

 

Ibibazo hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda ni Museveni ubitera.  Rutaremera yirengangije ibi bikurikira.

 

1.          Rutaremera ati Museveni afite ishyari kubera  ko Kagame atumirwa hanze ariko  Mueseveni we  ntibamutumire. Museveni nawe agiye yitumira mu manama yose nkuko Kagame abikora, nta kabuza abategura izo nama bamwemerera kuko depenses z'izo ngendo zitarihwa n'abategura ayo manama. Museveni ntashaka kujya mu nama usanga nta rôle afitemo. Reba nk'inama ya G20 yabereye vuba aha mu Butariyana, nta wa menya role Kagame yari afite n'abo ahagarariye. Aba Perezida benshi bo muri Afrika ntibashaka kwitumira mu nama bashaka kwiyereka gusa, bashaka  kuvuga ubusa no gusubira mu by'abandi bavuga cyangwa byavuzwe kera.  Kagame abajyanweye no kwigisha ya demokarasi ye, avuga ko abazungu bivanga muri demokarasi y'Afurika. Iyo mbyino ya Kagame abenshi barayimenyereye. Ariko  ajye yibuka ko mu bihugu byose byo muri Afurika ( uretse mu Rwanda) hari amashyaka ya opposition akora demokarasi yisanzuye kandi adakurkiye iyo demokarasi Kagame yigisha. Si abazungu  bayashyizeho. Kagame rero yari akwiye guhera aho yigisha uburyo bwe bwa demokarasi muri Afrika.

2.          Rutaremera ati  Museveni ashaka gutegeka u Rwanda. Kugeza ubu ntabwo Rutaremera na Kagame bari  baduha ingero za bimwe mu bikorwa bya Museveni byo gushaka gutegeka u Rwanda. Na Museveni kandi ati sinshaka abaza kuvogera igihugu cyanjye  bakora ubutasi. Ibimemenyetso by'iyo mitwarire ya Kagame  ku butasi i Bugande byo birahari. Urugero ni  ugushimuta abanyarwanda.

3.          Muzi ko  Museveni na Kagame barwaniye muri  RDC,  Kagame ati twarabakubise twicamo abarenze 2,000.  Ntabwo umubano uzashoboka hejuru y'ayo magambo Kagame yagombye kwicuza ko yavuze.

 

Icyo umuntu yashima Rutaremara ni uko noneho yemeye ko  u Bugande bwagize uruhare mu ntambara ya Kagame n'ubwicanyi Kagame yakoreye abanyarwanda.

 

Kagame niyibuke ko yatsinzwe ahantu hose: Muri RDC no mu Burundi. N'iyi ntambara arwana n'u Bugande azayitisndwa nta kabuza.

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Rwanda Forum] Ikigoryi Tito Rutaremera ati Museveni niwe utera ibibabo biri hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda

Noneho  se  gutukana bisigaye biruta ubwicanyi?  Uwantuka ntanyice nta kibazo. Uzabisobanurire Kagame.
Tuzakomeza kugaragaza ubucucu bw'abategetsi b'u Rwanda. Ntabwo tuzabica. Bazakomeze babeho.

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 23:02, Jerome Ndiho <jeronimo2408@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wa ngurube we ko utukana?


On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:25 AM, Amakuru y'u Rwanda

Ikigoryi Tito Rutaremera ati  Museveni niwe utera ibibabo biri hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda:

 

Ibibazo hagati y'u Rwanda na Uganda ni Museveni ubitera.  Rutaremera yirengangije ibi bikurikira.

 

1.          Rutaremera ati Museveni afite ishyari kubera  ko Kagame atumirwa hanze ariko  Mueseveni we  ntibamutumire. Museveni nawe agiye yitumira mu manama yose nkuko Kagame abikora, nta kabuza abategura izo nama bamwemerera kuko depenses z'izo ngendo zitarihwa n'abategura ayo manama. Museveni ntashaka kujya mu nama usanga nta rôle afitemo. Reba nk'inama ya G20 yabereye vuba aha mu Butariyana, nta wa menya role Kagame yari afite n'abo ahagarariye. Aba Perezida benshi bo muri Afrika ntibashaka kwitumira mu nama bashaka kwiyereka gusa, bashaka  kuvuga ubusa no gusubira mu by'abandi bavuga cyangwa byavuzwe kera.  Kagame abajyanweye no kwigisha ya demokarasi ye, avuga ko abazungu bivanga muri demokarasi y'Afurika. Iyo mbyino ya Kagame abenshi barayimenyereye. Ariko  ajye yibuka ko mu bihugu byose byo muri Afurika ( uretse mu Rwanda) hari amashyaka ya opposition akora demokarasi yisanzuye kandi adakurkiye iyo demokarasi Kagame yigisha. Si abazungu  bayashyizeho. Kagame rero yari akwiye guhera aho yigisha uburyo bwe bwa demokarasi muri Afrika.

2.          Rutaremera ati  Museveni ashaka gutegeka u Rwanda. Kugeza ubu ntabwo Rutaremera na Kagame bari  baduha ingero za bimwe mu bikorwa bya Museveni byo gushaka gutegeka u Rwanda. Na Museveni kandi ati sinshaka abaza kuvogera igihugu cyanjye  bakora ubutasi. Ibimemenyetso by'iyo mitwarire ya Kagame  ku butasi i Bugande byo birahari. Urugero ni  ugushimuta abanyarwanda.

3.          Muzi ko  Museveni na Kagame barwaniye muri  RDC,  Kagame ati twarabakubise twicamo abarenze 2,000.  Ntabwo umubano uzashoboka hejuru y'ayo magambo Kagame yagombye kwicuza ko yavuze.

 

Icyo umuntu yashima Rutaremara ni uko noneho yemeye ko  u Bugande bwagize uruhare mu ntambara ya Kagame n'ubwicanyi Kagame yakoreye abanyarwanda.

 

Kagame niyibuke ko yatsinzwe ahantu hose: Muri RDC no mu Burundi. N'iyi ntambara arwana n'u Bugande azayitisndwa nta kabuza.

 

 

 

 

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Le lundi 22 novembre 2021, 14:34:36 UTC+1, liza.kez@yahoo.com <liza.kez@yahoo.com> a écrit :


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On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 5:21 AM, SEKIDENDE Munyabagisha
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Cher Biampa, 

Je souscris pour 40% à ta conclusion (dernier paragraphe), le reste me rappelle la fameuse analyse brouillon du probleme inkotanyi par des haut gradeés des far aux debuts de la guerre multigenocidaire de 90.


Envoyé de mon LG. Solaire
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