Re: [Rwanda Forum] Le mystère des gendarmes français assassinés à Kigal

Ku byerekeye aba gendarmes b'abafransa bishwe mu Rwanda mu gihe cy'intambara, njye nari nari niteze ko  nyuma y'umubano mwiza utagira amakemwa  wongeye gusubukurwa na Macron, hazakurikiraho iperereza ry'uko abo ba gendarmes bishwe mu Rwanda, iryo perereza rigakorwa na Kagame. None nta cya kozwe. Muribuka ko abafransa banagiye gupima uburyo indege ya Habyarimana yarashawe, bahamagawe na Kagame. Bakora rapport y'ikinyoma izasubirwamo igihe kigeze kuko  ngo bakoze rapport ebyiri: imwe igenewe Kagame n'indi confidentiel.  Kuki icyo kibazo cy'aba gendarmes bishwe cyakomeje gushyirwa iruhande?


On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 17:11, Vincent Ndacyayisenga <rugura@yahoo.com> wrote:
Amakuru y'urwanda,

Makuruki se ko utanshubije, cyangwa ngo wunge mu ryawe? waba walitinye se (ko ayawe uyaha agaciro gake?)


Kigali


                                 BANYONZE UMUNTU


Ku italiki ya 26-1-1946 banyonze umuntu asiga atwigishije anaduhaye urugero

Uwo mugabo yitwaga KANYESOVU. Umunsi araye alibunyongwe, Bwana Komiseri amubaza icyo yifuza kunywa no kulya kuli uwo wa nyuma w'ubugingo bwe. Undi aramusubiza ati: "Iby'isi narabihaze: ndishakira iby'ijuru!", Bwana arongera ati:'Kanyesovu, niko bigenda, nia hali icyo wifuza ubimbwire". Kanyesovu ati:Bwana ntubabare, s'ukuguhima, ndashaka icyo Immana ishaka!, Bwana Komiseri ati: Nimumugulire amacupa abili y'inzoga!, Bagiye kuyagura koko, Kanyesovuarayanga, yinywerwa n'abandi, bibonera neza ko nta by'isi yali acyitayeho.
Buracya mu gitondo Umupadiri araza aramubatiza, amwita DISMAS, amusomera missa: Sinababwira iko Dismas Kanyasovu yumvise iyo Missa ye ya mbere n'iya nyuma.  Birangiye bamujyana bamugeza aho yajyaga kunyongerwa. Ageze hejuru y'ibiti bamunyongeyeho, abwira abali aho ati: Rubanda rw'umwami ruteraniye aha, nje kwishyura icyaha nakoze. Kandi rerourupfu ni urwa bose ntimukarutinye, ahubwo mujye mutinya gupfa nabi!, gupfa nabi ni ugupfana icyaha!.

Basomyi ba KM, ilyo jambo lya Dismas Kanyesovu ni ukuli: ali bene urwo rupfu , ali n'urw'ikirago, urubi n'urusanga roho ititeguye. 
Dismas Kanyasovu araezera ku bava-ndimwe be: Rwamukore Karani wa Murefu, w'i Gahoro na Kanyenkungu w'umuforoma Kampala, no kuli Nzabonaliba w'i Kamacumu mu Buhaya.

Nijye Rusigaliye abaseka (Ibindi bibuze umwanya).

Amakuru rero, kuba utarakomye ntibivuga ko utasipekuye, uti ese uwo banyonze ni kuli iyi ngoma? (nibutse ko navuze ko ntabo nzi banyongeye iKiagli, kandi Karamira na bagenzi be aliho banyongewe, nka babandi bagandaguye umuganwa utali umugani Ludoviko Rwagasore, banyonye iRujumbura (niko nabonye babyandikaga muli KM y'igihe cyiyi nkuru), iyo yali paranteze!.
Iya 5 Juillet yo se ntiyigeze inyonga? iya 1er Juillet yo se? harya uwo komiseri wasengereye iryanyuma Kanyasovu yali uw'uwuhe mwami? Mutara wa Gatatu cyangwa Lehopolidi wa Gatatu? (aliko Kanyasovu we ijambo rye yalibwiye Rubanda rw'umwami Rudahigwa.

Nanjye umubibyi wa sipkurasiyo, imbuto y'imeza nk'amatunda yo mwishyamba aho bitumye!, undi musipekurateri kuli uru rubuga, yatubwiye ko hali Radiyo itahuka, ubwo se izindi zirahuka? njye aliko mbona hafi ya zose zahuka, zitahuka, zirubahuka!(nyamara iziyuba zubahuka gake!).

wateruye inkuru unyomoza (ngo ntiwemeranya na) Zac Biampa (mon ami virtuel twasangiye byeli tutali mu kabali kamwe!)), uli amakuru aliko sinzi ko uli n'umunyamakuru (aliko twese tulibo, uretse ko hali ababigira umwuga, bikabatunga!)

Sipekurasiyo yanjye yapfubye, nabayigize bucece ubanza nabo mbakubitiye igihwereye (ubwo wawundi unshyira muli kenkena ya cumi na gatatu, yarataze ko nivamo nkavuga uko ingoma ntwalira utuzi inyonga! simubujije kunsipekuraho, aliko , nakubwiye ko nkubutse iRwanda, nagiye ndi Veni Vidi Visenti, ngarutze ndi Visenti aliko nka Kanyasovu kuvubu nibatije RuguraNTAmananiza (ntugirengo n'iry'intore, n'iba gutera agapira ali uguhamiliza nabayeyo, naho iby'itorero ndabyubaha, data niwe wanyigishije mu wambere kandi yigiye kwandika mw'itorero (mbyo nkuye mu rwa Gasabo rero halimo n'ibyo yiyandikiye, nk'ubu namenye icyo nabazaga inshuti yanjye na mutangazamateka padiri Rudakemwa, muli ya mateka yatugejejeho, data yarafunzwe mu ba lunari (yali mu bashinze iryo shyaka), aza gufatwa n'uwali komanda wa foruse pubulike, komanda Tiriporo (ali nawe wali wabungabunze umutekano wacu aho twali twarahungiye mu mashuli yacu y'iRwankuba (naho nanyarukiye yo, na nibukijwe ko uyu mwaka paruwasi ya Rwankuba yizihiza imyaka 75 ishinzwe kimwe na Kirisitu umwami (sibyo se mwalimu niyimi?), kwali ugutaruka .... data rero baramurekuye asubira mubyo yali yafungiwe, ingabo z'umwami Buduwe (se yali yaramurekuliye ingoma, nk'uko murumunawe yayirekuliye umuhungu we ubu uganje mu bubiligi, izo ngabo za Buduwe rero iwacu zali zihagaraliwe na adiminisitarateri wa teritwali ya Kigali Juliyani Nisensi (n'ubu ukiliho), araliko umupolisi Kabahizi ati ije tukazajya gufata Silivesitiri Buringufi, adiminisitarateri ntakamenye ko murumuna wa Silivesitiri nawe ali umupolisi (mugenzi we ati bulira mukuru wawe, ujo tuzajya kumufata , data yayobotse irya mulindabigwi, kugeza aho aboneye uburyo akerekeza iya Kabare ka Kigezi. .... harya ibi byose ndabikubwilira iki?

Data rero ngo yaziraga ko "ashaka kwica amatora! (n'umbaza nzakuvumbya ku nyandiko uwo musaza (we yali ageze muli kenkena ya cumi n'iwe), muli izo nyandiko ze nasanze ahubwo namushyira hamwe na Mandela na bagenzi be, yicaga amatora yande? izo ntumwa z'umwami Buduwe iyo zafataga ibiruhuko ntizerekeze iwabo mu bubiligi, zerekezaga he? Soweto? Johannesburg? Pretoria? sinkwoshya gusipekura kandi hali izuli iyizahura n'izahurwa zilishamo.

Reka ndekere aha, utayi(zi)tiranya n'iyu(zu)mwana!!!

Reka nsoreze kuyo nabonye muli iyi minsi ikanyibutsa indi: Inzirabwoba yabwye shefu (n'ubwo yaratakili we) Kamuzinzi, ati urajya he wa mazirantoki we, undi ati ndajya aho ajya!
Ejobundi rero numvise jenerali Kabiligi na bagenzi be bitwa imyanda, binyibutsa iyo nkuru ya Ntare y'akanwa, nibuka Sekidende ambaza ati: ou veus tu en venir (sinamushubije nti ou je voudrais m'en aller, kuko ou je voulais en venir, j'y etais toujours ......AHO ZAHUKA! (izilisha n'izitalisha!).

Ngayo nkuko rero, makuru y'urwanda (njye ayo naliliya data siyo naliliye Kizito, nyamara ava hamwe!)










On Friday, January 7, 2022, 08:49:00 a.m. EST, 'Vincent Ndacyayisenga' via Rwanda Forum <rwandaforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Amakururururu ki y'urwanda

Izi mbuga ziganjemo abanyarwanda, n'ubwo abenshi twaciye mu yali primaire même na secondaires (pouvait-on s'en passer?  abaminuje mwambwira).

Ibyo usobanura ko twize, itangazamakuru ryacu ahanini rinyura muli runwa (bistrots et autres lieux "culturellement Rwandais, c-à-d VERBALEMENT.

Tiens, je vais te faire speculer ..... IKIGALI BANYONZE UMUNTU, nkuyeho la surprise ya speculation (n'ubwo iKigali ntabo nzi uretse uyu mvuga bahanyongeye officiellement), n'umbwira ko n'ubwo nateganyaga gushandikanya indimi, n'umbwira igihe iyi nkuru yaba yarasohokeye nzagusengerera niba covid itarafungishije utubali tw'aho uli.

Hagati aho aliko mbaye nkwifulije umwaka mushya muhire , mperutse gufata sabatiki y'ukwezi kuli izi mbuga, nagarutse numva nsa n'uvuye muli cure de désintoxication, cyangwa se nkubutse iNdera.

Nibake kuli izi mbuga tutafite lunettes caléidoscopiques, hali na benshi batazi ko bazambaye,  SOIT D'ACCORD AVEC TOI MEME, IBINDI NI NKA YA MASHULI TUDAKENEYE ALIKO NTAWUMINUZA ATAYACIYEMO!

Amakuru y'urwanda, mvuyeyo aliko nyagusubiliyemo, byaba nk'ibya Musenyeri Rwabigwi, wavuye i burayi bamubaza bati n'iki cyagutangaje, ati nabonye abazungu benshi (n'ababikira beza inamiri), nanjye rero n'ushaka untazire ka kazina bamutaziraga, kuko izandemye nzibonye nazikata amanota! (cyangwa ngasaba risituruni!).

Uti ayo makururu n'ayahe? ntegereje ko ubimbaza kuko nkeka ko wahitamo kumenya izo zandemye!

On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 12:44:50 p.m. EST, Amakuru y'u Rwanda <amakuruyurwanda@gmail.com> wrote:


Oya ntabwo nemeranya nawe. Abari kuri iyi forum bazi ubwenge. Ntabwo ari abana bo gusobanurira  amavu n'amavuko y'inkuru n'impamvu iyo nkuru yagarutse. Nta editorial ikenewe. Kandi n'abaduha inkuru kuri uyi forum nta gihe babona cyo kubanza kwandika introduction ku nkuru batiyandikiye.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 17:18, Zac Biampa <zac.biampa@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Wawundi ati: " Turavuga bimwe ariko ntituvuga rumwe!". Abatugejejeho izo articles byari kubatwari iki( igihe cg amafaranga)  iyo bavuga bati dore articles zavugaga ikibazo cy'aba gendarmes français biciwe mu Rwanda le 07 avril 1994; bati kiracyavugwa kuko kitabonewe ibisubizo? Ariko gutura aho inkuru imaze imyaka icumi ivanze n'iy'uyu munsi... ntabwo bifasha abumva cg abasoma. C'est aussi simple que ça!

Le jeudi 6 janvier 2022, 18:04:42 UTC+1, Amakuru y'u Rwanda <amakuruyurwanda@gmail.com> a écrit :


Ariko article ya mbere iravuga ko familles  zabo bikiwe zitaranyurwa ko ubutabera bwakozwe.  Niyo mpamvu iyo article ya mbere yanditswe. Iyo ikibazo kitakemutse ngo banyiri ubwite banyurwe, icyo kibazo gihoraho. Hanyuma  speculations ntabwo zikorwa ku nyandiko za kera gusa. No ku z'ubu speculations zirahari.  Tugomba kwirinda  kwitiranya taboo na speculations. Gushaka ukuri birakomeza kugeza kubonetse.  Nta taboo rero irimo ko abantu basubira ku bibazo bitigeze bikemurwa. Speculations ziba iyo ikibazo kitakemutse. Ndakika ko ikibazo atari speculations. Ikibazo ni ukuri kugishakwa.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 17:02, Amakuru y'u Rwanda <amakuruyurwanda@gmail.com> wrote:
Ariko article ya mbere iravuga ko familles  zabo bikiwe zitaranyurwa ko ubutabera bwakozwe.  Niyo mpamvu iyo article ya mbere yanditswe. Iyo ikibazo kitakemutse ngo banyiri ubwite banyurwe, icyo kibazo gihoraho. Hanyuma  speculations ntabwo zikorwa ku nyandiko za kera gusa. No ku z'ubu speculations zirahari.  Tugomba kwirinda  kwitiranya taboo na speculations. Gushaka ukuri birakomeza kugeza kubonetse.  Nta taboo rero irimo ko abantu basubira ku bibazo bitigewe bikemurwa. Speculations ziba iyo ikiabazo kitakemutse. Ndakika ko ikibazo atari speculations. Ikibazo ni ukuri kugishakwa.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 15:48, Zac Biampa <zac.biampa@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Globalement d'accord avec vous, mais selon la déontologie journalistique, il fallait avertir le public que les articles datent de longtemps et si possible leur dire pourquoi ils reviennent dans l'actualité. Tous le monde n'est pas censé pouvoir situer la date de publication de ce qu'il lit dans la presse. Ainsi certains en lisant un article datant de plus de dix ans penseraient que l'affaire et relancée et commenceraient à spéculer à tord à cause de celui qui a recyclé et republié l'article sans les prévenir.

Le jeudi 6 janvier 2022, 16:18:13 UTC+1, Amakuru y'u Rwanda <amakuruyurwanda@gmail.com> a écrit :


Le premier article est nouveau. Kandi abantu bose si ko basomye ayo makuru nubwo yaba amaze iyo myaka yose uvuga.  Iyaba ngo izo nkuru nta kamaro zifite abazanditse baba barazikuye kuri Internet. Kandi amateka ahora yibutswa mu gihe bishobotse.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 13:25, Zac Biampa <zac.biampa@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Chers tous,
Puis-je savoir ce qui fait que subitement ces articles datant de 2012 et 2013 (9 et 10 ans) soient recyclés et mis à la une?
Merci.

Le jeudi 6 janvier 2022, 00:41:28 UTC+1, Amakuru y'u Rwanda <amakuruyurwanda@gmail.com> a écrit :


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