[Rwanda Forum] Re: itohoza : umuryango wa ​Louise Mushikiwabo - Suite mais pas fin (Ntiribara Mukuru nk'Umwana Muto Waribonye !)

@Rugura:

Wikipedia irarengana kubera ko n'ubusanzwe inyandiko yose itagira reference ifatwa nk'amarangamutima/ibyiyumiviro bya nyira yo. 

Bityo rero, mbere yo kwamagana wikipedia wagombye kuyinenga ko nta reference yatanze ku byo yanditse. 

Ariko kubera ko ntaho wahera uyinenga (see references 4-9 below) uhise mo kuyiharabika ngo ni "nyamunini w'ingarusi". Really? 

Wowe se utari ingarisi wayiruse ugakosora ibikocamye unatanga reference nyazo, ko isi yose izabigushira. 

Nzi ko ibi ubizi ariko ukaba wigira nyoninyinshi mu buryo bwo kurangaza rubanda. Reka nkwibarize: Iyo wikipedia yifashishijwe na leta y'uRda mu gushinja ibinyoma Mme Victoire Ingabire ibaye nyamunini y'ingarisi kubera ko itamaje Louise Mushikiwabo? 

Comme dirait ton ami boule d'homme a.k.a  umwuzukuru wa Ngurube, heureusement que le ridicule ne tue pas!

Pour votre info, voici les references (reprises par wikipedia) soutenant cette falsification grave d'identité de Louise Mushikiwabo:

4-^ a b c Twagilimana, Aimable (6 November 2015). Historical Dictionary of RwandaISBN 9781442255913.

5-^ a b Mushikiwabo & Kramer 2007, p. 65.

6-^ a b Mushikiwabo & Kramer 2007, p. Dedications.

7-^ a b Nkem-Eneanya, Jennifer (27 November 2013). "Minister Louise Mushikiwabo; Rebuilding Rwanda One Policy at a Time…"Konnect Africa.

8-^ a b c "New faces in Cabinet"The New Times. Rwanda. 8 March 2008.

9-^ "Anne-Marie Kantengwa". The Institute for Economic Empowerment of Women. Archived from the original on 2 February 2017. Retrieved 19 October 2016.

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On Jul 20, 2021, at 11:08 PM, 'Vincent Ndacyayisenga' via rwandanet <rwandanet@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Bwana Nzinink


Kizito Mihigo ati: Umujinya mw'iza, asomye ibihita kuli izi mbuga yavuga ko aya matsiko yawe ali bwoko ki? ni ryali Wikipedia (l'encyclopédie des fénéants selon le Dr E. Shimamungu) yabaye extrait d'acte de naissance? hary William Jefferson Clinton ni mwene ..................


Blythe's divorce from Wanetta Alexander was granted by court in April 1944. Seven months before that, in September 1943, Blythe had already "married" Virginia Dell Cassidy of Bodcaw, Arkansas. Blythe and Cassidy remained married until his death in May 1946, which happened in a car crash. On August 19, 1946, three months after Blythe's death, Cassidy gave birth to their only child, the future Bill Clinton. Cassidy had no knowledge of Blythe's previous marriages until decades later.[7]

Maternal family[edit]

Bill Clinton's mother, Virginia Dell Cassidy was of Irish ancestry[8] (later Virginia Dell Blythe Clinton Dwire Kelley), she was born in Bodcaw, Arkansas on June 6, 1923. She was the only child of James Eldridge Cassidy (1898–1957), a grocer, by his wife Edith Grisham Cassidy (1901–1968), a nurse anesthetist. Bill Clinton's father, William J. Blythe, was her first husband, and she married him in September 1943, when she was 20 and he was 33 years old. On the day of their wedding, Blythe was still legally married to his third wife Wanetta; his divorce from her was finalized only in April the following year. However, Cassidy may not have known of this circumstance at that time, and certainly did not know of Blythe's first two marriages until decades after his death. After Blythe died, she moved back with her parents, gave birth to a son three months later, and named him William Jefferson Blythe III. This was the future Bill Clinton.

In 1950, four years after Blythe's death, the young widow married car salesman Roger Clinton Sr. (July 23, 1908 – November 8, 1967). Roger was born in Yell County, Arkansas, in July 1908 to Allen W. Clinton (August 26, 1880 – June 14, 1965) and Eula Cornwell Clinton (May 29, 1882 – October 10, 1975).[9]




 The marriage produced one child, the actor and musician Roger Clinton Jr., who was born in 1956 and is the only one of Bill Clinton's siblings to have been raised with him and have a close relationship with him. In 1962, Roger and Virginia Clinton suffered a crisis in their marriage; they got divorced and then remarried in quick succession within that year. At this time, the 16-year-old William Jefferson Blythe III officially adopted his step-father's surname as his own and took the name William Jefferson Clinton. Roger Clinton died in 1967 after seventeen years of marriage.

On January 3, 1969, only one year after Roger Clinton's death, his widow married for the third time. Her groom, Jeff Dwire (June 6, 1923 – August 1974), was the same age as she, and had three daughters by a previous marriage. After briefly serving in the military, he had worked as a carpenter, a hairdresser, a judo teacher and a football coach, and had run a string of small businesses, including building houses, dealing in oil-well equipment and selling financial securities. What alarmed Virginia's family and friends was the fact that he had served nine months in prison during 1962 for stock fraud. However, Bill Clinton was supportive of the new man in his mother's life; he served as Best Man and also played and sang at the wedding reception. The marriage, which produced no children, lasted until Dwire died in August 1974 from complications arising from diabetes.

In January 1982, Virginia Dwire married for the fourth and last time to Richard Kelley. This marriage, which produced no children, lasted until Virginia's death from breast cancer on January 6, 1994. In later life, Virginia was insistent that all official documents refer to her by her full and chosen name, "Virginia Dell Blythe Clinton Dwire Kelley."

Louise Mushikiwabo was born on 22 May 1961 in Kigali, the Rwandan capital.[4] Her father was Bitsindinkumi, a Tutsi from the Batsobe clan;[5] Bitsindinkumi worked as a farmer, managing the family's smallholding as well as working as bookkeeper for a colonial coffee plantation.[5] Her mother was Nyiratulira, a first cousin of the philosopher and historian Alexis Kagame.[6] She spent her childhood in Kigali.[7] The youngest of nine children,[8] her siblings included Lando Ndasingwa, who became a notable businessman and politician in Rwanda before being killed in 1994 during the Rwandan genocide,[7] and Anne-Marie Kantengwa, who took over Lando's hotel Chez Lando after his death and served in the Parliament of Rwanda from 2003 to 2008.[9]


Ne seriez vous pas un fan de circonstance de Kizito?  many US founding fathers owned slaves, and some got children with them, those children were slaves like their mothers, mu rwanda naho hali abana bavutse ku baja, bakabarwa mu muryango wa nyina,  je n;aurai pas fait aucune objection si vous aviez fait une etude/recherche exhostive sur ces filiations problematiques,  amatsiko yawe me semble quelque peut vicieuse, c'est mon avis ...tout personnel (mais qui peus aussi étre biaisé vu nos echanges sur ces fora, l'idée de grandeur n'a jamais rassuré la conscience des imbeciles(Georges Bernanos), toute demarche qui n'a pas lla grandeur d'ame comme toile de fond ne fait-elle pas de nous des agent de la déception, si pas d'imbecilité? votre avis m'eclairerait, en gardant intact mon degré d'imbecilité (ce que j'en ferais définira mon orientation).



On Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:06:25 a.m. EDT, 'Nzi Nink' via rwandanet <rwandanet@googlegroups.com> wrote:


 Murakoze cyane Bwana Murayi ku bw'iri tohoza rigikomeza.

Niba uri umwungura ukaba kandi musaza wa Louise Mushikiwabo buriya nanjye wasanga nanjye ari mushiki wanjye kubera ko ndi imvange y'umwungura n'umugesera…!

Nshimye cyane ko kugeza ubu bisa n'ibitagishidikanywa ho ko Louise Mushikiwabo na Lando Ndasingwa bahuje nyina gusa.

 Nta kuntu se wa Lando yaba na se wa Mushikiwabo kandi uyu mugabo yarapfuye muri 1958, imyaka itatu mbere y'uko Mushikiwabo avuka (re: wikipedia).

Reka rero dukomeze itohoza, yenda bidatinze tuzamenya iri sisibiranya ry'umwirondoro wa Louise Mushiwabo icyo rigamije.

"So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known". Matthew 10:26.


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On Jul 19, 2021, at 1:46 PM, 'NIKOZITAMBIRWA' via rwandanet <rwandanet@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Nzinink,
Ngo Ntiribara Mukuru nk'Umwana Muto Waribonye !
Voici le résultat de mes investigations.
1. Louise Mushikiwabo ntabwo ari mubyara wanjye ahubwo ni mushiki wanjye. Ni umukobwa w'Abatsobe kuko Umutsobe (se wa Lando Ndasingwa) ariwe wakoye nyina (Habyarinka).
2. Quant à son père biologique, il n'est pas de la famille du Colonel Laurent Serubuga (mon oncle maternel). Il s'agirait plutôt d'un certain Kajangana, infirmier de son état, formé par les Frères (gantois) de la Charité  au Groupe Scolaire d'Astrida (territoire du Ruanda-Urundi), infirmier à Kabuye (Jabana, ancienne commune Rutongo) avant d'être muté au CHK. D'après les informations que je viens de recueillir, le sieur Kajangana n'aurait jamais travaillé à Kibungo. D'aucuns croient même savoir qu'il s'agirait d'un Mututsi burundais du clan des Banyagwanda (= Banyarwanda).
Ngibyo nguko.
Abatabizi bicwa no kutabimenya.
Nikozitambirwa

IM Habimana
19.07.2021
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Mukomere Bwana Murayi,
Ndabona ibintu biriko biza!

Biriya bivugwa kuri Mushikiwabo, hari umuntu ubinsubiriye mo agira ati:

"Ibi nabibwiwe n'umugabo biganye i Ruhande uba i Burayi! Yatubwiyeko yabyawe n'umugabo wacyuye nyina muri za 60! Se wa benenyina yapfuye mbere ho imyaka 3 ko we avuka."


Igitangaje ni uko CV ya Mushikiwabo iri kuri wikipedia ntacyo ibivuga ho. References na zo si shyahya. Hari mo conflit d'interet ikabije.

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Louise Mushikiwabo was born on 22 May 1961 in Kigali, the Rwandan capital.[4] Her father was Bitsindinkumi, a Tutsi from the Batsobe clan;[5] Bitsindinkumi worked as a farmer, managing the family's smallholding as well as working as bookkeeper for a colonial coffee plantation.[5] Her mother was Nyiratulira, a first cousin of the philosopher and historian Alexis Kagame.[6] She spent her childhood in Kigali.[7] The youngest of nine children,[8] her siblings included Lando Ndasingwa, who became a notable businessman and politician in Rwanda before being killed in 1994 during the Rwandan genocide,[7] and Anne-Marie Kantengwa, who took over Lando's hotel Chez Lando after his death and served in the Parliament of Rwanda from 2003 to 2008.[9]

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References

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  1. ^ https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/french-foreign-policy/francophony-and-the-french-language/events/article/francophonie-louise-mushikiwabo-takes-office-as-secretary-general-of-la
  2. a b Karuhanga, James (6 December 2009). "Museminali Hands Over to Mushikiwabo"The New Times. Rwanda. Retrieved 17 September 2010.
  3. a b "Louise Mushikiwabo"Macmillan Books. St. Martin's Press. Retrieved 17 September 2010.
  4. a b c Twagilimana, Aimable (6 November 2015). Historical Dictionary of RwandaISBN 9781442255913.
  5. a b Mushikiwabo & Kramer 2007, p. 65.
  6. a b Mushikiwabo & Kramer 2007, p. Dedications.
  7. a b Nkem-Eneanya, Jennifer (27 November 2013). "Minister Louise Mushikiwabo; Rebuilding Rwanda One Policy at a Time…"Konnect Africa.
  8. a b c "New faces in Cabinet"The New Times. Rwanda. 8 March 2008.
  9. ^ "Anne-Marie Kantengwa". The Institute for Economic Empowerment of Women. Archived from the original on 2 February 2017. Retrieved 19 October 2016.

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On Jul 15, 2021, at 4:39 PM, i murayi <ildephonse.2009@gmail.com> wrote:


Nzinink,
Ndakuramukije.
Iryo tohoza wifuza nanjye ndarikeneye (kandi ndifitemo inyungu).
Niba koko Louise Mushikiwabo yarabyawe na mukuru wa Colonel Serubuga Laurent, kandi Colonel Serubuga Laurent akaba ari marume (nka wa wundi ukuruma akurora !), birashaka kuvuga ko Louise Mushikiwabo ari mubyara wanjye.
Najyaga nibaza igituma iyo uriya mukobwa w'Abatsobe mubonye buri gihe umutima wanjye utera ukuntu, none ndakimenye : Amaraso aranuka ! Abamwegereye i Paris mumumbwirire ko nzashaka umunsi (nyuma ya confinement) nyarukire i Paris, musabe audience maze jye na we dusubire mu gisekuru kuko aho duhurira ari hafi cyane rwose. Jye, nitwa Habimana wa Murayi, Murayi wa Murimanyi (umwungura w'Abaramba) nkaba ariko umwuzukuru wa Nganyirande wa Musanganya (umubanda w'Abahoma), Musanganya wa Kigorora, Kigorora cya Sebine, Sebine bya Nsubijeho, Nsubijeho wa Kamoga, Kamoga ka Rugaju, Rugaju rwa Mirindi, Mirindi ya Muremera, Muremera wa Gaciye, Gaciye ka Masetsa, Masetsa ya Samukende, Samukende wa Mpoma, Mpoma ya Minyaruko, Minyaruko ya Nyamikenke, Nyamikenke ya Nkuba, Nkuba ya Mashira, Mashira ya Sabugabo, Sabugabo bwa Nkuku, Nkuku ya Kibanda(mbeba), umwami w'i Nduga Ngari ya Gisari na Kibanda nyine. Erega Ababanda bakabyarana n'Abungura Abarayi b'Abamaji ! Ni birebire.
Iyangire.
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Abobishoboye mubitohoze, please!

"Louise Mushikiwabo yigira umututsikazi kuruta ba Rozaliya Gicanda kandi ali umuhutukazi kuli se, akaba umututsikazi kuli Nyina. Se wa Lando yapfuye muri 1958 Louise Mushikiwabo avuka muri 1962. Akaba yarabyawe n'umuforomo w'umuhutu w'i Kibungo ukomoka i Gisenyi (bivugwa ko yari mukuru wa Col Serubuga), ari ho hava iryo zina rya Mushikiwabo (mushiki w'abahutu)", Ruhamiliza Augustin.

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Onderwerp: [rwandanet] itohoza : umuryango wa Louise Mushikiwabo ( Kizito Mihigo - Turi abana b'u Rwanda - Rwandan diaspora Song ) & Genda Rwanda...

Et comme l'a si bien chanté Mihigo Kizito, LYRICS : "R/ Amerika n'Uburayi, Aziya na Oseyaniya, nibiducumbikire, ariko ntitwibagirwe ko turi abana b'u Rwanda. 1. Turagenda tukiga tugakorera amafaranga, tugashaka akazi tukiyubahisha tukagira ijambo, tukereka amahanga ko Rwanda wareze neza, ariko ni ha handi tugaruka ku isoko, kuko ..."
Nzinink,
Ndakuramukije.
Iryo tohoza wifuza nanjye ndarikeneye (kandi ndifitemo inyungu).
Niba koko Louise Mushikiwabo yarabyawe na mukuru wa Colonel Serubuga Laurent, kandi Colonel Serubuga Laurent akaba ari marume (nka wa wundi ukuruma akurora !), birashaka kuvuga ko Louise Mushikiwabo ari mubyara wanjye.
Najyaga nibaza igituma iyo uriya mukobwa w'Abatsobe mubonye buri gihe umutima wanjye utera ukuntu, none ndakimenye : Amaraso aranuka ! Abamwegereye i Paris mumumbwirire ko nzashaka umunsi (nyuma ya confinement) nyarukire i Paris, musabe audience maze jye na we dusubire mu gisekuru kuko aho duhurira ari hafi cyane rwose. Jye, nitwa Habimana wa Murayi, Murayi wa Murimanyi (umwungura w'Abaramba) nkaba ariko umwuzukuru wa Nganyirande wa Musanganya (umubanda w'Abahoma), Musanganya wa Kigorora, Kigorora cya Sebine, Sebine bya Nsubijeho, Nsubijeho wa Kamoga, Kamoga ka Rugaju, Rugaju rwa Mirindi, Mirindi ya Muremera, Muremera wa Gaciye, Gaciye ka Masetsa, Masetsa ya Samukende, Samukende wa Mpoma, Mpoma ya Minyaruko, Minyaruko ya Nyamikenke, Nyamikenke ya Nkuba, Nkuba ya Mashira, Mashira ya Sabugabo, Sabugabo bwa Nkuku, Nkuku ya Kibanda(mbeba), umwami w'i Nduga Ngari ya Gisari na Kibanda nyine. Erega Ababanda bakabyarana n'Abungura Abarayi b'Abamaji ! Ni birebire.
Iyangire.
Abatabizi bicwa no kutabimenya.
Nikozitambirwa
15.07.2021
Abatabizi bicwa no kutabimenya.
Nikozitambirwa

IM Habimana
19.07.2021

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